Thursday, July 9, 2009

Was The Panic Worth It?

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“Someone's sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago”


Make no mistake. The past 12 months have been nothing less than a global market panic.
Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae imploded. Bear Stearns got "rescued," along with AIG and when somehow Lehman Brothers wasn't saved, the panic became a selling mania – a loss of rationality, something close to mass hysteria. These events created a perfect storm where top U.S. banks were eventually bailed out by the Fed. The last two stand-alone investment banks on Wall Street - Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, fled for relief by becoming bank holding companies. The global markets tumbled, erasing the past 12 years of market gains. The Volatility Index (the "fear index") still showed the worse of market uncertainty until March 2009.
The list could go on. The question is – was the panic worth it? Now that global markets seem to have stabilished with higher capital creation and liquidity, are we calm enough to reflect on how have we handled the panic feelings? Have we wasted a totally ‘good crisis’ ?

To help us answer these personal questions, let’s look at the panics of the early 20th century stock market crashes in the U.S. and see if we can draw some similar conclusions.
The last official panic -- the Panic of 1907 -- shook the U.S. economy to its core. Wall Street brokerages failed, depositors ran on banks, well-known companies went under, and the market's liquidity was in question (sounds familiar?). In this instance, J.P. Morgan and friends famously put together US$25 million to keep the market afloat - a role now occupied by the Federal Reserve. By 1909, the Dow Jones index had more than recovered from pre-panic highs.
In 1914, the year the Great War began in Europe, the U.S. stock markets actually closed for nearly four months after foreign investors began pulling their money out of U.S. equities en masse to support the war effort. When it reopened, the market was devalued about 30%, but sustained rallies doubled that opening by the end of 1916.
Then, of course, came the Great Depression -- the single most important economic event in U.S. history which began with the Crash of 1929 and lasted until the U.S. entered World War II in 1941. In 1932, unemployment hit 24.9%, and more than 9,000 banks failed during the 1930s. And there were no federally insured deposits until the Banking Act of 1933 created the FDIC, so when the bank failed, Americans’ hard earned money went with it. In fact, Wall Street's very future, not to mention the economic model of capitalism was in question.
For those investors who had both the money and the courage to invest in the 1930s, it paid off. One man famously borrowed money to buy 104 U.S. stocks trading for less than $1 a share in 1939. Talk about investing at the point of maximum pessimism! Four years later, though, his money had quadrupled. His name, of course, was the late Sir John Templeton.
OK, so what's your point?
We've seen bad markets before. And in every case, the point at which the market has turned irrational or overly pessimistic is precisely the time we long-term investors should have bought equities.
Despite the headlines proclaiming the next Great Depression, the current credit crunch is no Great Depression. However, market conditions can still remain arguably rocky in the short run. Unfortunately, this uncertainty seems to be the right music in the hands of the financial media, whose job is to attract readership by sensationalizing news events, and usually fanning the flames of unnecesary panic. Remember, bad media sells, old boring news don’t.
In reaction to most of these bad media which we sometimes term it as “financial pornography”, we tend to panic and get out at all cost in scary times, realizing our losses. We like to keep up with our neighbors so we behave in a herd-like fashion. We stay up nights extrapolating the most recent trends and expect that they will continue indefinitely. All these tendencies have the ability to work against us and preclude us from reaching our financial goals. It is no wonder most investors end up discouraged with their investing activities, only to lament that it is always a zero sum game.
So, what can Individual investors like us do in times of uncertainty? We should forget the game of short-term trading, and stick to longer time horizons. The media and ‘stock market gamblers’ focus on minutes, hours, and days, while those who are serious about the other areas of their financial life focus on years and decades. Unfortunately, some people waste so much time and effort in predicating the next stock market level, trying to double guess which stocks will soar, that they have entirely neglected the other more important areas of their financial life which are foundations to securing a stable financial future. Time can be better spent following a systematic approach to retirement planning and a conscious effort to accumlating wealth rather than emotional short term trading without a direction and a purpose. On that note, do remember that greed is not a valid purpose.
Back to our 1st question : “Was the panic worth it?”. The answer is : “It depends on what you did.” If you were taken in by the panic – you sold off your positions (realizing your losses) or sat on your position (you did nothing to average down), then you have wasted a good crisis. However, if you had accelerated your longer term wealth accumulation plans during those periods, you have strengthened your financial foundations for the future. And you’ll be glad you did when you look back in a few years’ time.

61 comments:

horse said...

Sold my Tanjong at 14.20.

horse said...

Adopting hng method, bought back Tanjong at 14.10.

Unknown said...

thank you for your nice blog topic. It really help me, I almost forgot about long term investment, I keep asking myself, which stock to buy to earn profit at fast.... this is a wrong step taken by me...

Anonymous said...

Horse
Good trade on tanjong. I'm opt for dividend income from tanjong. No trading today.

Portfolio now is in very defensive state. 60% tanjong; 15% ARREITs and 3.2% keladi. Will only try to increase keladi stake from now.

horse said...

hi yusriever,
mind to share what is your holdings?

Sold my Tanjong at 14.30.

Anonymous said...

Sold off all 60% tanjong at 14.30, realize all paper profit.

Change my mind, take profit first on tanjong. Start feel uncomfortable on tanjong after paper profit hit too steep. Better raise more capital, prepare to increase further stake in ARREITs and keladi

Bought some ARREITs at 72sen

Bought some keladi at 15.5sen, q more at 15sen.

horse said...

Bought myself GENTING SP at 0.70 just now. Likely to open it casino 1Q of next year. This one for longterm keep.

Anonymous said...

so far, increase ARREITs stake by addititonal 10% at 72sen

increase keladi by additional 20% at 15.5sen.

Will progressively increase stake of these two stocks up to maximum.

Total portfolio now have
25% ARREITs
23.2% keladi

Anonymous said...

In afternoon session, Increase both ARREITs and keladi stake by another 10% at 72sen and 15.5sen, respectively.

Total portfolio now have
40% ARREITs
33.2% keladi

elmo said...

horse, good article. i read it with open mind. there is a very thin line between "fear factor" and looming disaster. These "analysts" always tell you to buy in when people are getting out. Some gain others lost their shirts. I have seen a few friends who rushed in where the devils fear to tread... and lost their pants. an example is citibank and aig recently. when aig got bailed out the share rocketted.. but when their insured planes crashed it's the last straw... they have a huge capital reduction... reverse splitting of ?? 1: 30 shares?? i dare not touch foreign shares.. difficult to felt their pulse.. too far from wall streets. a lot of informations are just junk info. americans are liars. american traders are worse than ordinary liars!

horse said...

elmo, yea, it is true, many have jump the ship on citigroup & aig. aig just completed it reverse splitting of 20:1. It is giving more room to fall i believe as the price has adjusted rocket high to USD19 and now abt USD11. As for citigroup it is better compare to aig, i believe citigroup is too big to be failed. Likely that US gov will try it best to safe this company no matter how. This is thier pride for them to clinge on.
Wow... an offer of RM0.88 for Genting SP!!!!, laughing all the way to bank :)

Anonymous said...

Horse,
Wow, You have started to deploy capital to invest in oversea market (STI). Good for more diversification on assest allocation and direct exposure to regional market.

Today market slump follow the lead from regional market.

Nevertheless, Tanjong remain top gainer despite consecutive gain in last few days. Perhaps this is sign of investor looking for shelter in current uncertain market.

Expect pullback trend continue in view of numerous economy indicator from US. and coporate earnning result release by this wk.

Stay sideline, waiting for more attractive bargain price, but will keep at least 75% capital invested.

Total portfolio remain unchanged:

40% ARREITs
33.2% keladi

Anonymous said...

Today decided to buy starREITs.
Bought about 17.4% of starreits at 83sen.

StarREITs is expected to delcare its semi-annual income soon, at least 3.4sen or 4% return.

Total portfolio now:

40% ARREITs
33.2% keladi
17.4% StarREITs

steve said...

Hi hng,

just wondering how come u dun load in more keladi since keladi is giving more dividend than starreits at the current keladi price. Anyway, I'm stll trying to load up more on keladi on weakness.

Anonymous said...

Steve

The reason is simple, sustainbility. No doubt, keladi give higher dividend yield, but its business depend on property in kedah (80%) and plantation (20%). PAS lead state gov increase bumi quota to 50% for property may affect its demand.

On the other hand, the plus point for REITs is sustainbility and consistency in income payout. Both are commmitted to payout almost 100% earning on semi-annually. In addition, both are trading lower than thier NTA and IPO price. At current level, both are expect to declare their income very soon.

Nevertheless, i'll still weight on keladi and both REITs, as i intend to invest up to maximum (100% + 100% margin). With current portfolio just reach 90.6%, i still have pretty of 'bullet' to bargain buy.

Anonymous said...

In view of positive lead from US market and upward bias on bursa. I 've try my luck on Genting

Bought 60% Genting at 5.50, using margin line.

Total portfolio now:

40% ARREITs
33.2% keladi
17.4% StarREITs
60% Genting (50.6% is margin line)

horse said...

hng
i'm admiring your day trading stretagy. Somehow i will try imitate your method once in a while but just can't afford to do it every single day.
I'm still practically a longterm guy. That is why venturing in GENTING SP for longterm. Hope i'm not wrong to enter at current level in view of it impending casino to be opened 1Q next year. Decide to buy now before i regret later.

Good buying on your REIT. Look at HEKTAR now, 0.98sen !! i still holding some on hand :)

Anonymous said...

Horse

I've nothing special skill aside from real experience in everyday trading. Portfolio always keep uptodate and change to reflect current trading envirnoment and better suit current risk appetite. The profit return is measure by total ROE of whole portfolio rather than single stock in every month. Hence, i seldom keep stock in portfolio for too long, either dispose to take profit or cut loss.

Nonetheless, i still have longway to be more sophisticate trader. Hopefully, with time and accumulate experience, i could develop more comprehensive trading system with clear entry and exit plan.

Perhaps, in future i could also venture into other regional market as part of diversification.

Anonymous said...

Bought 5% additional ARREITs at 72.5sen

Total portfolio now:

45% ARREITs
33.2% keladi
17.4% StarREITs
60% Genting (55.6% is margin line)

Anonymous said...

Bought 30% additional Genting at 5.50 in the afternoon session

Total portfolio now:

45% ARREITs
33.2% keladi
17.4% StarREITs
90% Genting (85.6% is margin line)

Anonymous said...

Ha!, sold back 30% afternoon stake of Genting at 5.55, realize few hundred intraday profit.

Bought additional 8.7% ARREITs at 72-72.5sen

Total portfolio now:

53.7% ARREITs
33.2% keladi
17.4% StarREITs
60% Genting (64.3% is margin line)

Anonymous said...

Very strange, when everybody anticipate market under selling pressure, contradiction just ocur, market up more than 15pts!?

However, nowadays with volatile market, anything can happen. So, just don't go against market, but at the same time don't follow market track too closely. Market is art, not a sciences. It involve human and influence by day to day sentiment on top of macroencomic indicator. Hence, prepare ourselve to ride through all possible scenario with primary aim to preserve capital, at the same time, learn to increase net worth throungh stock investment.

Anonymous said...

Wow! just within first 15min, already sold off all Genting at 5.60, realize handsome T+1 profit :)

Anonymous said...

Tired q to buy keladi at 15-15.5sen, decided to buy at 16sen.

Bought additonal 12.6% keladi at 16sen, still q to buy at 15-16sen

Bought also additional 6.4% ARREITs at 72sen

60.1% ARREITs
45.8 keladi
17.4% StarREITs

(margin line: 23.3%)

Anonymous said...

Bought further additional 20% of ARREITs at 72sen

80.1% ARREITs
45.8 keladi
17.4% StarREITs

(margin line: 43.3%)

horse said...

well trade on Genting.
Mkt up 18points, 1100 is anytime soon.
KNM is back in action again. I do hope today's volume can reach 1b and sustain it for this week, then next week will be very bright.

Anonymous said...

Aiya, Genting share continue to strength, up 20sen to 5.75! Another sell prematurely...

Nevermind lah, i could channel back margin line to increase my core holding.

Bought again additional 3.4% of ARREITs at 72sen and 2.1% keladi at 16sen


Total portfolio close for today:

83.5% ARREITs
47.9 keladi
17.4% StarREITs

(margin line: 48.8%)

horse said...

wow, market up 20points.
Sold all my Pantech at 80sen.
All of you must be "Laughing all the way to bank".

Anonymous said...

Ha, Ha!

This morning, snap up GENM at 2.74-2.76, until hitting maximum margin line. In the bull run, bid these high beta stock.


Total portfolio

83.5% ARREITs
47.9 keladi
17.4% StarREITs
51.2% GENM

(margin line: 100%)

Anonymous said...

Yeah,

Just within 20min, take intraday profit on GENM

Sold all GEM at 2.82-2.83. realize handsome profit.. He :)

horse said...

good trade mate. :)

Anonymous said...

i'm increasing keladi stake now..

My risk apeptide has increasing, willing to pay more to grab more keladi stake.

bought keladi at 16.5sen and still continue to buy...

Anonymous said...

All done, manage to increase keladi stake by another 15% at 16.5sen. Still q more at 16sen.

Total portfolio now

83.5% ARREITs
62.9 keladi
17.4% StarREITs

(63.8% is margin line)


(margin line: 100%)

Anonymous said...

Sold off all StarREITs at 86-86.5sen, realize all T+3 profit. Spare more room for margin line


Total portfolio now

83.5% ARREITs
62.9 keladi


(46.4% is margin line)

Anonymous said...

Horse

Your PBBank soaring. This is your niche, buy bluechip and hold for long-long, easily can reap more than 20% return. Very rewarding for part-timer investor.

Good investing.

horse said...

My holding on PBB is since 2002, with all the bonus issue + div + shares div + cap appreciation, total return is about 220%, spread to 7 years is about 30% per annum. not bad, not bad.

Anonymous said...

Excellent! You deserve to be call savvy investor, practising Warren Buffett value investment strategy.

Your investment will be double every 2.4yr. (72/30%)

horse said...

No way to compare with WB....

hng,
you know how to apply rule 72 huh... not bad...u must be very good in numbers & maths.

Anonymous said...

No lah, every month i need to calculate return from stock investment ma, take every possible measure and strategy to increase net worth and enlarge capital.

Horse

As part timer, it should be very happy thinking of another helper (stock investment) is working as hard as you. Ha! it is possible, one day these helper may surpass your own income in future. By then, you are earning double salary every month!

horse said...

i do hope that my investment can surpass my salary, then i can opt for fulltime like you. :)

Adopting your strategy again by buying back Pantech at 0.78sen.

Anonymous said...

Bought more ARREITs and keladi in the afternnon session: additional 12.3% ARREITs at 72sen + 10% keladi at 16.5sen

Total portfolio now

95.8% ARREITs
72.9 keladi


(68.7% is margin line)

Anonymous said...

Investment income surpass salary was major motivation for me to opt for full-time. It happen in 2007, and consecutive surpass for 6 month, have prompted to make such decision.

In fact another reason were i could'nt concentrate in working (stock investion divert my attention) + underperfrom in job career + dislike my boss that always give neverending load and pressure!!!

Finaly, i fire back and quit in middle of hectic workload.

steve said...

Hi guys,

Seem like u all been actively trading in the market. Been bz this few days. Missed loading more on keladi. Tomorrow they should declare the div.
Hng, i also wish i can be full time like u. Hope really 1 fine day i can fire my boss. Work is killing me. Anyway...take care guys.

Anonymous said...

Steve

I understand the limit of keladi future expansion and sustainbility of its dividend payout.

I invest largely due to its upcoming dividend of 1.5sen and the fact that every bid of 0.5sen, already generate positive profit. Hence, the downside risk is limited, but the upside could be very rewarding if the volume surge.

Today is keladi AGM, and once resolution for dividend has pass, the announcement of dividend will be declare within 10 days after AGM.

steve said...

Hi hng,

That is wht i'm banking on keladi as well. Every 0.5 changes is a good profit. hng, u said the div will only be announce after 10days from the AGM? Don't they usually decide in the AGM itself?

Anonymous said...

Used up all availble margin to buy GENM at 2.74-2.75, hopefully can repeat yesterday quick profit gain.

Total portfolio now

95.8% ARREITs
72.9% keladi
31.3% GENM

(100% is margin line)

Anonymous said...

Steve,

By Law, resolution on dividend that pass in AGM have to officially declare within 10days.

However, it is up to management to decide which day within these 10day period to declare.

In fact, management can opt for dividend payout immediately after AGM, that is today after market closed.

Anonymous said...

HA!, just within an hour, market make U-turn, up again almost 7pts. My GENM also make swing.

Immediately, sold off all GENM at 2.78-2.79, realize almost 2k intraday profit. Wow! its rewarding to make some swing trading while waiting my core portfolio (ARREITs and Keladi) to perform.

Anonymous said...

Increase further core holding: bought another 21.4% ARREITs at 72sen in the afternnon session.

Still believe the ARREITs upcoming income of at least 3.6sen or 5% is driving force. It is the only laggarding among the listed REITs YTD.


Total portfolio now

117.2% ARREITs
72.9% keladi

(90.1% is margin line)

horse said...

REITs are all low beta stock. Buying huge volume might have problem disposing them all at one shot. however the income distribution may be very rewarding. Hopefully the volme increases when div is announced.

Anonymous said...

Public bank just announce 30sen dividend payout, horse, your Genting today again hit 6.00 again. Can laugh all the way to bank already :P


Market up another 15pts, but no trading so far. Portfolio remain unchange. Keladi confirm dividend of 1.5sen, ex-date 3 Aug. Stock only up by 0.5sen to 17sen, still below my target exit price. Steve, are you selling now? or wait for dividend income

On the other hand, ARREITs also inche up another 0.5sen to 73.5sen, still wait for its dividend as catalyst. Overall, Portfolio look stable confine with only two core stocks keladi (dividend) and ARREIT (defensive)

117.2% ARREITs (ave cost : 72 sen)
72.9% keladi (ave cost: 16sen)

(90.1% is margin line)

horse said...

PBB declares 30sen div maintaining last year div. not bad at all during this financial crisis.
Will likely sell Genting when it hit above RM6.
Keladi up ARREIT up, wow, with your volume traded, u r indeed truely laughing all d way to bank. :P

Anonymous said...

horse

Concentrating capital and focus on few stocks is my current strategy. So long stock appreciate at least 5%, and with the help of another 100% margin line, i'm expecting ROE of at least 5% capital + 5% margin line = 10% total ROE, which should be reasonable judging from current bullish market. Eagering waiting for my paycheck by end of this month :)

Anonymous said...

ARREITs has just announce income of 3.419sen, ex-date 31 July. Although the income is lower than expected of 3.6sen, but it still give rise to 4.7% yield (annulized9.4%)

steve said...

hng,

I still holding keladi at the moment. I will sell it off before the payout which should b b4 8th Aug. At the current price, I thick we actually have make profit. SO i will sell if once the price is right.

Anonymous said...

Sold first batch of 1/3 keladi at 17sen, realize paper profit first. Market seem starting to self-correction.


117.2% ARREITs
48.5% keladi

(65.7% is margin line)

Anonymous said...

Sold second and last batch of keladi at 17sen, realize all paper profit all in the morning session. Expect market due for correction soon


117.2% ARREITs


(17.2% is margin line)

Anonymous said...

Bought 57.4% Astro at 3.24-3.30 using margin line, astro has been consecutively down in last two day.

Anonymous said...

Today, i've hunt Astro. Bought Astro at 3.24-3.30. The share price already consecutive down more than 10% since management deny on possible sell of its oversea assest.

Soon after buying and market regain momentum up again by another 15pts, Astro share also rebounded, prompted me to take quick take intraday profit.

Sold off all Astro at 3.36-3.38

horse said...

Astro ?
Heard, that is some unconfirmed RM1 payout, restructuring & asset disposal. Don't know how much of these is real ?

Mike Forex Cable said...

To invest your style how much capital do I need. Appreciate your advice hng

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